-A question for you as we begin our text today: does God ever disagree with you? And if your answer to that question is no, then I want you to ask what god do you worship? I think there’s a tendency for us to think of God as either superman, or a better version of ourselves. Unfortunately, the God of the Bible doesn’t play by our rules, can’t be completely understood by our minds, and has a different standard than we do!
-One of the things we need to admit before we read this text is that we’re all products of our culture, it affects us so much that we don’t even see it as part of our culture! And I believe today’s text is one of those places that cuts against the grain of our current culture. We have become so egalitarian across the board that any limitations placed on anyone for any reason are thought to be a problem to be pushed through instead of a gift.
-But that also affects the way I read/interpret this passage, because what this text says wouldn’t be counter-cultural in many parts of the world, and especially throughout history! The counter-cultural part to them would be something we see as completely normal today, but we need work through the text to see it.
-And as a word of encouragement to us as we read this text, even the first disciples told Jesus there were things He said that were hard, but when it’s hard we must lean in to what God has said.
READ/PRAY (pg. 1051)
- Men: Lift Up Holy Hands (8)
-We pick up right where we left off last week! We saw that the church is commanded to pray for everyone, including those in authority over us, and here Paul says that prayer must also be connected to holy living. That means there are some ways to pray that are wrong! Paul here says when men pray, it should be done without anger or argument.
-I believe he’s speaking in generalities here. Between men and women, which gender is more prone to anger? Isn’t it men? It’s not saying it’s exclusive to men, but my experience in the world has been that men tend to be more hot-headed than women, so what Paul is specifically calling out here is that when men come to pray, it needs to be accompanied by unity. A couple other passages help to flesh out this idea:
–Matt. 5 – Jesus says that unity is dependent on reconciliation. Jesus here is referring to worship of God. In order for us to worship God rightly, it depends on reconciliation with each other. And notice He doesn’t say “if YOU have something against someone” He says “If you remember that SOMEONE ELSE has something against you.” That’s remarkable! That’s the kind of spirit we’re supposed to have in the church where we work to preserve unity, in Eph. Paul says to make EVERY EFFORT to keep unity.
-Second passage that helps us understand Paul’s command is Luke 18. The Pharisee uses prayer as a performance for the masses and looks down on everyone else instead of pursuing unity together. He’s so busy looking down on other people that he forgets that he’s also a sinner! Instead, Paul says that the men of the church should be without anger or argument with each other, aka unity!
-But what about holy hands?
-David is Psalm 24 talks about a similar idea that I think helps us understand what Paul means here. Holy hands is a way of describing someone who is living an upright life. So in the church, the men should be known for praying and pursuing unity! Now for the women:
- Women: Learn (9-15)
-I don’t think there’s a section of Scripture that has contributed more debate over the past 50-100 years than this one! And I, like many people I know and have read and studied, have wanted this text to say something other than what it says. And when we’re tempted to do that we need to fall on our face in front of God and admit that He knows things that we don’t! So as much as we can, we need to work to submit ourselves to God’s Word, not twist God’s Word to fit our aims, that puts us in the place of God.
-A second note: there are people that have gone the other way and taken this text TOO seriously to the point of subjugated and belittling women. This text is meant to be freeing and edifying to both men AND women, no gender is better in the eyes of the Lord, and trying to argue that somehow women are inferior to men is a sin. The first thing we see about men and women in the Bible is their equality before God, God looks at man and says “not good!” it’s only when the women is brought to him as his complement that God says that’s right!
-One of the most quoted verses in the women in the church conversations is Gal. 3, and it’s in the Bible too! But in order to faithfully interpret and apply this text, we have to understand that Paul isn’t talking about church order or church leadership, this is referring to salvation. In salvation, nothing matters except Jesus. There is no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female in matters of salvation. But in matters of church offices and functions, there is a difference!
-If you’ve been coming for a while, you’ve seen this scale of gender roles before, and I preached on complementarianism more broadly in January, so if you want you can go back and listen to that sermon.
-Really briefly, let’s define these terms. By feminist, I’m referring to 4th wave feminism, not old school feminism which pushed for women’s rights to vote. Modern day feminism argues that women are superior to men, which is unbiblical. The other side is also unbiblical and that’s called patriarchy, that argues that men are better than women (some people actually argue that this text teaches that women are more susceptible to sin than men, hence Eve being tempted instead of Adam, that’s also wrong). So we can cross those 2 off! We’re then left with egalitarian and complementarian. Our denomination is complementarian (taken from complementary, men and women are called to distinct yet complementary roles). Complementarians believe that there are some offices and functions in the church reserved for qualified men, egalitarians believe there is no prohibition, and the primary debate centers on this text.
-Honestly, I have yet to meet someone that is complementarian because they want to be or because they’re looking to demean women. Everyone I know has come to the text wanting it to say something else and after careful study have come to the conclusion that any other options don’t deal well with the text. All of my education has been at schools that are egalitarian, I have friends who are egalitarian, and I appreciate that they’re willing to debate out the text itself, that’s where we need to get all our beliefs from, God’s Word, and then we submit ourselves to God’s Word instead of our cultural ideas.
-This is a topic that is going to be a hot topic issue in our culture for the foreseeable future, so if any of you have questions after walking through this, please reach out, I’ve got all sorts of resources for you, as the author of Ecc.
-I believe one of the keys to interpreting this text is understanding the church as a family or household, that’s why this series is named what it is! When we have that background in mind it helps us understand what Paul is doing here.
-Kids will often get asked what they’re going to be when they grow up, my son at his K graduation said he was going to be a basketball and soccer player and work at his church. My daughter was recently saying she wanted to work at church, but then Calvin told her she couldn’t be a pastor and she couldn’t understand why, and my answer to her was: can a daddy be a mommy? Just as a family needs different and distinct genders (complementary), a church needs different and distinct genders for the church to flourish.
- Not Externally (9-10)
-Is this saying all women need to wear denim jumpers? That if you’re dripping you’re sinning? Not at all! There’s a few things to note about this:
-First, there’s the need to not be a distraction to others. This is a piece that often gets missed today. In many churches you come into a dark theater, ushers have flashlights to help you find seats, music is mixed so loud no one can hear each other, pretty hard to be a distraction in that environment! In the early church that wasn’t an option. Everyone saw each other, and dressing too well made some women stand out.
-Second is that when we gather as a church, we’re supposed to be pursuing unity, and if women treat church as “America’s Next Top Model” it places the focus on them instead of on God. Don’t dress to bring attention to yourself!
-Instead, notice what Paul says what women should dress in: good works. Peter uses some similar language to encourage women, too. Clothes are primarily just to cover up, so don’t give too much attention to them, and instead focus on what God’s doing in your heart.
-Before we get into the contested section, I believe that some of what Paul is doing here is defending the idea that both genders are created as good, and are meant to imitate God by reflecting their unique gender. Pushing against God’s design for each gender is wrong and reflects the same motivation as the serpent back in Gen. 3. Friends, the whole gender confusion thing isn’t new! And the midst of this confusion, the church is meant to serve as an example of why following God’s good design of male and female leads to human flourishing. So many of our issues with gender confusion stem from cultural expectations instead of reality, so as the church, we need to work to represent the diversity of each gender.
- In Submission (11-15)
-Literally every word is debated in this text. Paul switches from the plural “women” to the singular “woman,” why does he do that? Is it woman or wife? What does “silence” mean, how complete is that prohibition? What is a woman supposed to do in church?
-There are numerous spiritual gifts list throughout the NT, and none of those lists are gender specific, which tells us that God gives some women the gift of teaching. If God gives them that gift, where are they supposed to use it? As I was growing up, that seemed to mean women were restricted to teaching in 2 contexts: women and children
-But I’d like to push back to that, just slightly, because once we get there I’ll argue that teaching is a specific kind of teaching in a specific time, so hold on to that!
-We also see women throughout Scripture leading in other contexts. Pheobe is called out specifically in Rom. 16, Luke tells us that many women provided for Jesus and the Apostles, and as we’ll see in a couple weeks, women are also encouraged to serve as Deacons in the church.
-It’s also important to understand that there is 1 command in this verse: learning. Contrary to our cultural expectations, this would have been revolutionary because in the 1st century education was only available to men/boys. Here Paul is saying that women are not just permitted to learn, but commanded to learn! But just as the dressing previously was with good works, here the learning is meant to be done in a specific way:
-“In silence” what kind of silence? How prohibitive is this silence? Part of the reason why I have issues with the egalitarian position is because of the way they will twist the wording to argue their position. The primary book that argues for the egalitarian position is Discovering Biblical Equality, now in its third edition. In the chapter on these verses, the author states, “the semantic range for hesychia does not include “silence.”” And then to support the claim the footnote says “See BDAG” which is basically a Greek dictionary that lists all the interpretive options for a word. Is silence not in there? It even says that’s the correct interpretation for this verse. But that’s not the only expectation in 1 Tim., Paul also says:
-“full submission” – another piece that gets missed in this conversation is that that expectation isn’t unique to women, same expectation for men (Heb. 13). This is a way of saying there’s a God designed order to the church that we need to follow!
-“I do not allow” – typical Pauline use, look at vs 8, this isn’t just a proclamation for a narrow slice of time, this is a command for the church at all time
-Debate is what is Paul talking about here? Is this 1 thing or 2? Some argue that this is merely authoritative teaching or if it’s 2 different things, no teaching and no authority, so let’s dig in here!
-Teaching: the word Paul uses here is always used to refer to the transmission of God’s Word throughout the Pastoral epistles. This is where I would argue that there’s only 1 kind of teaching that is prohibited, what is taking place right now: the preaching of God’s Word. Bullinger quote (2ndHelvetic Confession 1562). Preaching is a completely unique and sacred act that God uses broken, sinful people like me to proclaim His truth to His people. That’s where I work so hard to be careful about what I’m saying each and every week, I realize this is an incredibly weighty task that is done with much fear and trembling each week. This is why I would argue that this is the 1 limitation that Paul is giving to women: preaching. Any other teaching is supposed to be encouraged! Sunday school, regardless of who’s in attendance, small groups, seminaries, conferences, all those are acceptable places for women to speak, the prohibition is the preaching part of the gathering of God’s people on Sunday morning, that’s it, as far as teaching. But that’s not it in terms of the limitation:
-Have authority: the debate for this word is about whether or not this is a negative connotation as in “usurp authority” some have even tried to argue that this word is connected to “murder” so the prohibition isn’t connected to all authority, it’s exerting improper authority. That one is within the semantic range, but I don’t think it best fits with the way Paul’s comment here is flowing, I don’t have time to get into the grammatical reasons this morning, so if you want more information, check out this video, it’s only 11 hours 24 minutes long (only 12 min shorter than the entire LOTR Extended trilogy)
-How prohibitive is this “silence”? Used in 11 and 12, but also used in last week’s text in 2:2 so I would argue a better thought of as quietly, or reverently, within the preaching of God’s Word in the corporate gathering of God’s people. It’s not a complete prohibition! Because we also need to factor in a place like Col. 3:16 we’re commanded to teach each other through our singing, or 1 Cor. 11 where women are assumed to be praying and prophesying in the church, BUT women aren’t to speak into the interpretation of the prophesies as we see in 1 Cor. 14 (if you want more info, I’ll plan to talk more about this in sermon scraps this week, so sign up for that if you’re interested!)
-Why is this true? It’s one thing for Paul to share his opinion, but where does he ground his argument from? As a good Christian, he grounds it in God’s revealed Word! “For” the reason for this prohibition is because of God’s intent in creation.
-References back to creation, particularly Gen. 2 God’s intent has been for man to be the leaders in the home and the church. The ordering in creation is God to Adam, Adam to Eve, who together ruled over the beasts. The serpent then denies creation order when he deceived Eve, and Adam was supposed to be a protector who defended and guarded the garden, but he didn’t, and Gen. 3 even says that Adam was there with Eve when she was tempted.
-Paul’s point is not that Adam didn’t sin, his point is that the sin was a reversal of the way God intends His creation to function, and you can see that when you look at Gen. 3, because Eve eats the fruit first, but who does God talk to first? Adam! Adam is held responsible for Eve, not the reverse. That isn’t saying Eve is “lesser than” or not worth God’s focus, because she is addressed too, but after Adam. Again, God’s ordering is Him, Adam, then Eve, but then in the curse God follows the reverse order that His creation has chosen.
-Vs. 15 continues the debates, and there’s even questions about how to translate this section! With just a casual glance at this, does Paul say women must give birth in order to be saved? What about salvation by faith alone?
-2 primary arguments, and I actually take the minority position (less used), but I could be convinced of the majority position! First is this is referring to the typical order of things – women are the only gender that can give birth, so instead pushing against God’s ordering, it’s submitting to what God has determined by embracing her role as a mother and not trying to become a father. NT scholar Doug Moo summarizes this position well. A subset of this that can be dismissed, is that Christian women will be preserved throughout the process of delivering a child because experience doesn’t hold that to be true.
-I think it’s something slightly different than that, and it’s because of a definite article (get ready for a grammar lesson!) In English, we have 1 definite article: the. Greek has multiple different iterations of that based on gender and singular or plural. The word for childbearing has a definite article in front of it, meaning an interpretive option is (looked at 63 translations, 6 of them have this option) she will be saved through THE childbearing. If you think back to Gen. 3, even in the midst of God’s judgment, God promises to bring salvation, the serpent vs. the offspring, the serpent will strike the heel, but be struck on the head. Part of the reason I think that is because every time Paul uses the word “saved” in the pastoral letters he’s talking about salvation, so I think he’s continuing his reflections on Gen. 3. Salvation came through a women named Mary who became pregnant by the power of the Holy Spirit, so Paul is saying salvation is possible for women just like men through faith in Jesus Christ, living and flourishing as a woman as God intended for His glory and the good of the church.
-Friends, God’s Word is good and being obedient to God’s Word leads to a flourishing life. This doesn’t mean that men and women are interchangeable, and it doesn’t mean that the church is the 1 institution where women aren’t able to serve. The church is meant to be the 1 place where men and women can be the gender God created them to be and reflect God’s good design for humanity, leading to the flourishing of both genders, because God’s way is true, and good, and beautiful when you have people loving the Lord and loving each other and joyfully submitting ALL of us, to God’s commands.
-So wherever you’re at in your walk with Jesus, are you willing to submit to God’s good design for the church and the family? Pray for us as a church that we would be intentionally looking for ways to give BOTH men and women the opportunities to use their gifts. And most of all, look to the perfect Son who unlike Adam willingly submitted Himself, laid down His life to redeem His bride. He embraced His created order and now provides salvation to everyone: Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female, we all can become 1 in Christ Jesus!

